this deals with TLC chromatography:

if 2 compounds have same Rf under identical conditions, does it show that they have identical structures?

i think it does. but im not sure why.

thanks mucho.

My best guess, but you should check with others, is that two compounds with the same Rf value are not necessarily identical. I think you might get the same Rf value because the solvent was not right to separate two different compounds. From known runs of known compounds that ARE separated by a particular solvent, then two compounds with the same Rf value will be the same compound. But for a mixture of many compounds my first thought holds.

TLC chromatography is a technique used to separate and analyze different compounds in a mixture. The Rf (retention factor) value is a measure of how far a compound travels on the chromatogram relative to the solvent front. It is calculated by dividing the distance the compound traveled by the distance the solvent traveled.

If two compounds have the same Rf value under identical conditions in TLC chromatography, it does not necessarily mean that they have identical structures. The Rf value depends on various factors, including the nature of the compound, the type of stationary phase, the composition of the mobile phase, and the temperature.

However, it is important to note that compounds with similar structures and properties may have similar Rf values. This similarity could indicate that the compounds have similar polarity, molecular size, or functional group composition. Therefore, having the same Rf value can suggest a similarity between the compounds, but it does not confirm that they have identical structures.

To determine if two compounds have identical structures, additional techniques such as spectroscopy (e.g., NMR, IR, or mass spectrometry) or crystallography are typically used. These techniques provide more specific and detailed information about the compounds, allowing for a more accurate comparison of their structures.

No, having the same Rf (retention factor) value in TLC (thin-layer chromatography) does not necessarily indicate that the compounds have identical structures. The Rf value is a measure of how far a compound travels on the TLC plate relative to the solvent front. It is influenced by several factors, including the compound's polarity, size, and interactions with the stationary phase.

Having the same Rf value suggests that the compounds have similar affinity for the mobile phase and the stationary phase used in the TLC experiment. However, compounds with different structures can sometimes exhibit similar affinities, leading to similar Rf values. Therefore, it is not sufficient for determining the identity or structure of the compounds solely based on their Rf values.

To confirm the identical structures of the compounds, additional analytical techniques such as mass spectrometry, infrared spectroscopy, or nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy should be employed to provide more conclusive evidence. These techniques can provide information about the molecular weight, functional groups, and connectivity of the compounds, allowing for a more accurate determination of their structures.