Consider a fuel cell that uses the reaction of ethanol with oxygen to produce electricity,

CH3CH20H(l)+ 3O2(g)---> 2CO2(g)+3H2O

Use thermodynamic data to determine the value of E°cell for this cell at 25 °C.

I don't really know where to start. I got the standard G for
CH3CH2OH: -174.8 kJ/mol
O2: 0 kJ/mol
CO2: -394.4 kJ/mol
H2O: -237.1

I was thinking maybe I should use deltaG = deltaG(products)- deltaG(reactants).

Then use the equation of of deltaG = -nFEcell and manipulate it to Ecell=deltaG/-nF, but then I don't know how many n is transferred.
Can someone please help me with the problem? I don't really understand how to do it.

its still not making sense to me

Bad explanation, but it's correct answer.

Well, it seems like you're in a bit of a pickle. Don't worry, I'm here to help you out and hopefully bring a smile to your face along the way!

To determine the value of E°cell for this fuel cell, you're on the right track with using the standard Gibbs free energy change (ΔG°). However, before we can apply the equation ΔG = ΔG(products) - ΔG(reactants), we need to determine the values for ΔG°.

The equation you've given is the balanced equation for the reaction. To calculate ΔG° for the reaction, we can use the following equation:

ΔG° = ΣnΔG°(products) - ΣnΔG°(reactants)

Let's do the math:

ΔG° = (2 * ΔG°(CO2) + 3 * ΔG°(H2O)) - (ΔG°(CH3CH2OH) + 3 * ΔG°(O2))

Substituting the values you provided:

ΔG° = (2 * (-394.4 kJ/mol) + 3 * (-237.1 kJ/mol)) - ((-174.8 kJ/mol) + 3 * (0 kJ/mol))

ΔG° = (-788.8 kJ/mol - 711.3 kJ/mol) - (-174.8 kJ/mol)

ΔG° = -1500.1 kJ/mol + 174.8 kJ/mol

ΔG° = -1325.3 kJ/mol

Now, to determine the number of electrons transferred (n), we can look at the balanced equation. In this case, 6 electrons are transferred (3 per ethanol and 6 per oxygen).

Now, let's move on to calculating E°cell using the equation ΔG° = -nFE°cell:

E°cell = -ΔG° / (n * F)

Substituting the values:

E°cell = -(-1325.3 kJ/mol) / (6 * F)

Since you're working at 25 °C, we can use the Faraday constant (F) of 96,485 C/mol:

E°cell = -(-1325.3 kJ/mol) / (6 * 96485 C/mol)

E°cell ≈ 0.221 V

So, the value of E°cell for this fuel cell at 25 °C is approximately 0.221 V. And with that, you've successfully conquered this thermodynamics challenge! Keep up the great work and never stop spreading your knowledge like a true smarty-pants!

To determine the value of E°cell for the given fuel cell reaction, you can use the equation:

ΔG° = -nFE°cell

where:
ΔG° is the standard change in Gibbs free energy
n is the number of moles of electrons transferred in the balanced chemical equation
F is the Faraday's constant (96,485 C/mol)
E°cell is the standard cell potential

In this case, you need to match the number of electrons transferred in the reaction to n. Looking at the balanced chemical equation:

CH3CH20H(l) + 3O2(g) → 2CO2(g) + 3H2O

You can see that the ethanol molecule (CH3CH20H) loses 12 hydrogen atoms (3 per molecule) to form 6 water molecules (3 per molecule). Each hydrogen atom loses 1 electron, so a total of 12 electrons are transferred.

Now, calculate ΔG° by subtracting the sum of the standard Gibbs free energies of the reactants from the sum of the standard Gibbs free energies of the products:

ΔG° = [2 × ΔG°(CO2)] + [3 × ΔG°(H2O)] - [ΔG°(CH3CH20H)] - [3 × ΔG°(O2)]

Substituting the given values into the equation:
ΔG° = [2 × -394.4 kJ/mol] + [3 × -237.1 kJ/mol] - [-174.8 kJ/mol] - [3 × 0 kJ/mol]

Calculating this expression, you should get the value for ΔG°.

Finally, rearrange the equation ΔG° = -nFE°cell and solve for E°cell:

E°cell = ΔG° / (-nF)

Plug in the calculated values for ΔG° and n, and remember to use the correct value for Faraday's constant (96,485 C/mol). This will give you the value of E°cell, the standard cell potential for the fuel cell at 25 °C.

Yes you do exactly what you have outlined. I would look at change in C and change in O for n. If we see ethanol as C2H6O and assign oxiatioin states of -2 for O and +6 for 6H, that makes 2 C in ethanol as -4. On the right the 2C are +8 so the change in e is 12. We can check that number with O to make sure we're right. We have 1O in ethanol which we called -2 and it is -2 in CO2 and H2O so it hasn't changed at all. That leaves us with 6 O on the left at zero going to 6 O on the right at -2 each or 6*2 = 12 so O has changed by 12 e. That checks. n must be 12