Posted by **Eric** on Wednesday, May 15, 2013 at 10:51am.

Find dy/dx and d2y/dx2 if y= definite integral sign where a= 1 and b= 3x

1/(t^2+t+1) dt

how do i even start. do i integrate and then plug in a and b? plz help.

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**Steve**, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 at 11:19am
dy/dx = 1/(x^2+x+1) * 3

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**Eric**, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 at 11:30am
can you explain how you got this. thanks

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**Steve**, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 at 11:35am
excuse me? Didn't we just go through this about differentiating under the integral sign?

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**Eric**, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 at 11:38am
but i dont get how you can just replace the variable t with x so easily. i dont get how you did that. and how does the 3 come into the picture for dy/dx.

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**Steve**, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 at 12:04pm
In general (see the wikipedia article for proof),

∫[a(x),b(x)] f(t) dt

= f(b(x)) db/dx - f(a(x)) da/dx

Since we have a(x) = 1, da/dx = 0 and we are left with

∫[a(x),b(x)] f(t) dt

= f(b(x)) db/dx

b(x) = 3x, so db/dx = 3

So, oops. I made a mistake. It should be

dy/dx = 1/((3x)^2+3x+1) * 3

Good catch! :-)

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**Eric**, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 at 12:12pm
Thank you very much! I really didn't understand the form but now I do. :)

Also, would d2y/dx2 be:

-9(6x+1)/((9x^2+3x+1)^2)

I just want to make sure that d2y/dx2 is asking for the second derivative?

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**Steve**, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 at 12:42pm
haven't checked your work, but yes, they want y"

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**Eric**, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 at 1:49pm
Oh okay thank you!

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