Posted by Raf on .
Hello, just wanted to verify is what I did is good. I posted this question yesterday and Bob helped me, so just wanted to be sure it's good.
The problem is:
A bloc of 10 kg is put at the top of an inclined plan of 45 degrees (to the left), attached to a spring which has a spring constant of 250 N/m. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the bloc and the surface of the inclined plan is of 0,300.
What is the maximum elongation of the spring?
First I went to find fc :
EFy = 0
n  mg*sinTHETA
n = mg*sinTHETA*mu
n = 10kg*9.8N/kg*sin45*0.300
n = 20.8 N
then I know that Us = 1/2kx^2
and that Ug = mgycosTHETA*x
so:
Ef = Kf + Ugf
Ef = 1/2kx^2 + mg*cosTHETA*x
Ef = 125x^2 + 29.4x
Ef = Ei + Wnc < My friction force
so
125x^2  29.4x = 0  20.8x
125 x^2 = 8.6x
125x = 8.6
x = 0.0688 meters or 6.8 cm.
does that make sense?
Thank you!

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Raf,
made a mistake when I wrote Ef = Kf + Ugf
instead it's >
Ef = Kf + Ugf + Usf 
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Raf,
where Kf is = 0

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bobpursley,
No it does not make sense.
Workdone by gravity= force down plane*distance= mg*sinTheta*x
Work done on spring: 1/2 k x^2
Work done on friction: mg*cosTheta*mu*x
so
mgSinTheta*x=1/2 kx^2+mgCosTheta*mu*x
divide by x, then group terms
1/2 kx=mg(SinThetamu*CosTheta)
125x=98(.7.3*.7)
x=98/125 *.7*.7= .392m
check my thinking. 
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Raf,
ohhh I see now, but when you say Work done on spring, you take the Energy formula which is 1/2 k x^2 , wouldn't the work on a spring be mu*N*x?

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Raf,
and why isn't it Wg = Wspring  Wfriction
as friction is going to other way? 
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Raf,
nevermind my first question, my mistake hehe

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bobpursley,
your second quesion. Friction absorbs energy, as does the spring. They add to equal the energy input of the system.

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Raf,
okay cool, thanks a lot Bob