Posted by Kate on Monday, August 2, 2010 at 11:56pm.
For many years the recovery of gold-that is, the seperation of gold from other materials-involved the use of potassium cyanide:
4AU + 8KCN + 02 +2H20 -> 4KAu(CN)2 + 4KOH
What is the minimum amount of KCN in moles needed to extract 29.0 g (about an ounce) of gold?
Now my question is one of the proper equations as I don't know what symbol to use for which quantity...
I understand that
mass = (molecular mass)(moles of mass)
were mass has units of grams, g, symbol used curvy M, mass of each element in the compound times subscripts of the element i.e. C2 would be 2(12.00g) = 24.00 g
mole of mass is the coeficent before the compound in the balanced reaction equation
m = Mn
I then would go to use subscripts were if the question asked about a compound on in part of the reactant balanced equation I would just use a R for a subscript and a Y for yield
now this problem bothers me
dividing the equation above by Mn I get
m/(Mn) = 1
and then go do the problem but sense the question is making reference to two reactants I had to use A and B for subscripts as well were A is the gold compound and B is the KCN compound
(m_R_A)/( (M_R_A)(n_R_A) ) = (m_R_B)/( (M_R_B)(n_R_B) )
solving for m_R_B
( (m_R_A)(M_R_B)(n_R_B) )/( (M_R_B)(n_R_B) ) = m_R_B
now my probelm is that I know that m_R_A is given in the problem 29.0 g so I now that m = Mn solving for n I get m/M I need to solve for n so clearly then
(m_R_B)/(M_R_B) = n_R_B = ( (m_R_A)(n_R_B) )/( (M_R_B)(n_R_B) )
clearly my use of symbols is wrong but it makes sense were n_R_B is the is the 8 and also what the probelm is asking for me clearly a probelm but here is what I did
( (29.0 g Au)(8 mol KCN) )/( (197.0 (g Au)/(mol Au))(4 mol Au) ) = .294 mol KCN
clearly this is a probelm even though its write because in the equation I said that KCN was 8 moles but when I solved I got .294 mol KCN are these two different values because they are both the amount of moles of KCN
I'm kind of confused please let me know how to make sense of this in my equation and understand how they are different and the symbols I should use to indicate so as I don't know how to do this please let me know if you don't understand
- Chemistry - DrBob222, Tuesday, August 3, 2010 at 12:26am
Frankly, I understood only a sentence or two of your post. Poor punctuation and run on sentences was partly to blame (as well as spelling where as were); however, some of the problem just escapes me. I think you have made it far to complicated. Here is how you do the problem.
mols Au in 29.0 g Au =
moles = grams/molar mass = 29.0/196.97 = 0.147 moles Au.
Now convert moles Au to mols KCN using the coefficients in the balanced equation.
0.147 moles Au x (8 moles KCN/4 moles Au) = 0.147 x 2 = 0.294 moles KCN.
I sense you are confused that the moles KCN should be 8 moles while you obtained 0.294 moles. The 0.294 mole KCN is the correct answer when 29.0 g Au is separated; the 8 moles KCN is the correct answer when 4*197.9 g Au (4 moles Au) is separated.
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