Posted by Kyle on .
Solve an equilibrium problem (using an ICE table) to calculate the pH.
a solution that is 0.205 M in CH3NH2 and 0.110 M in CH3NH3Br.
i used th Ka of CH3NH2 and set up the problem as Ka=[H3O][CH3NH2]/[CH3NH3Br], but that was wrong. So i switched the equation to Ka=[H3O][CH3NH3Br]/[CH3NH2] but the pH i calculated from solving that equation was also wrong. Am I using a bad Ka or am I setting up the equation wrong?
The pH's i calculated were 3.63 and 3.09

Buffer solution 
DrBob222,
Frankly, I would use the HendersonHasselbalch equation. I assume your instructor has a reason for working the problem another way. Here is what I would do to follow the ICE method.
CH3NH2 is a base. Think NH3. We write that equilibrium as
NH3 + HOH ==> NH4^+ + OH^
CH3NH2 works the same way.
CH3NH2 + HOH ==> CH3NH3^+ + OH^
These boards are difficult to make spaces so I must write the ICE chart as below; I suggest you redo it in the usual manner and write the I, C, and E amounts under the reactants and products. I think that will make it easier to see.
Initial:
CH3NH2 = 0.205 M
CH3NH3^+ = 0.110 M
OH^ = 0
change:
CH3NH2 = x
CH3NH2 = +x
OH^ = +x
equilibrium:
CH3NH2 = 0.205x
CH3NH3^+ = 0.110+x
OH^ = x
Kb expression is
Kb = (CH3NH3^+)(OH^)/(CH3NH2)
Look up Kb and solve for x.
When it comes to solving the equation, the x is small enough to ignore when combined with something else (0.205x very nearly equals 0.205 and 0.110+x very nearly equals 0.110). I would then convert OH^ to pOH and subtract from 14 to obtain pH. I ran it quickly using the HH equation and obtained 10.95 for the pH. 
Buffer solution 
shantel,
is these buffers solution NH3, NaC2H3O2
NH3,NH4Cl
HC2H3)2,HN)3
KOH,KCl