there is no way to cause windows xp to retain permissions when an object is copied tor moved to another ntfs volume.

In Windows XP, when you copy or move an object (such as a file or folder) to another NTFS volume, the permissions associated with the object are not retained by default. This means that the newly created object on the destination volume will have the default permissions of that specific volume.

However, there is a way to cause Windows XP to retain permissions when copying or moving objects between NTFS volumes by using the built-in command-line tool called "xcopy".

Here's how you can use xcopy to preserve permissions when copying/moving objects between NTFS volumes:

1. Open Command Prompt by pressing the Windows key + R, then type "cmd" followed by Enter.

2. In the Command Prompt window, navigate to the source directory where the object you want to copy/move is located. For example, if the object is in "C:\Folder1", you would type:
```
cd C:\Folder1
```

3. Now, use the xcopy command with the "/o /x" switches to retain object ownership and audit settings. Additionally, use the "/e" switch to include subdirectories and the "/k" switch to copy attributes. For example, to copy the contents of "Folder1" to another NTFS volume while preserving permissions, you would type:
```
xcopy * <destination> /o /x /e /k
```

Replace "<destination>" with the path of the destination directory on the other NTFS volume.

4. Press Enter to execute the command. Xcopy will copy the object(s) to the destination volume while retaining the permissions, ownership, audit settings, and attributes.

Note: Xcopy is a powerful command-line tool, so be cautious while using it to avoid accidentally modifying or overwriting your files.

It's important to note that Windows XP does not have native functionality to retain permissions when moving objects. However, if you need to preserve permissions while copying/moving files in a more user-friendly manner, consider upgrading to a newer version of Windows, such as Windows 7, 8, or 10, which provide improved support for retaining permissions during file operations.