Posted by Tim on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 4:40pm.
There is a subtle difference in the questions and if your prof hasn't explained it the problems can be confusing, as you have just demonstrated. Here is the point of the two problem.
There is an equivalence point which is the point at which the EXACT number of mols of acid equals the EXACT number of mols of base. This is a theoretical number which is the point at which acid and base are EXACTLY neutralized. That is what your first problem is.
When you perform a titration, you must have some way to KNOW when you have reached the equivalence point. So you add an indicator to your solution and titrate away until the indicator changes color. This is not called the equivalence point; it is called the END POINT. You HOPE (with the emphasis on HOPE) that the indicator will tell you when you have reached the equivalence point. I notice in your problem that it calls what I have called the "end point" the "titration equivalence point." Same difference. So the first problem is to establish the theoretical equivalence point and the second problem is to establish the titration equivalence point (or end point) and then to see the difference in the two numbers. The difference is called the indicator error. With good choice of indicator and good skills as an analytical chemist, we can keep the indicator error very small although we can't do away with it entirely. I haven't answered your question directly but I think I have indirectly. Please let me know if there is anything on which you need me to elaborate.
So if I understand you correctly the numbers I would need to use are the ones found at the end point or the titration equivalence point. My equation would then be:
0.015000M of NaOH x 0.01505L/0.01505L
Yes, I think you use 0.01505 for the second part. Four things I should mention.
1. It appears to me you used 0.01505 for the first part, too, from your first post. I don't think that's the idea of the problem.
2. It's hard to tell exactly what number means what since you didn't post any of the numbers EXCEPT in your first solution.
3. I don't think the values in your last post are correct (unless they came from other unposted data) but it's obvious to me that 0.01500 x 0.01505/0.01505 = 0.01500 but the molarity of NaOH is 0.500 M?
4. You have carried out the first calculation to far too many places. Did you have extra zeros on the 0.50 you didn't print. If so, and that number is 0.5000 and the buret readings are 0.01500 then you can have four significant figures.
Okay, I am doing a lab with titration as well. I have read everything here, and have a question for you as well... if that is okay? The hard part for me is that I don't have a prof. to talk to face to face since my whole class is on-line. Anyway...
Titrating an acid/base - 1 M. solution of NaOH into HCL. I have to Calculate the molarity of the HCl from the volumes of acid and base at the equivalence point and the molarity of the NaOH.
This is what I have:
Volume of Acid (HCL) at equivalence point: 25ml
Volume of Base (NaOH) at equivalence point: 15.05ml
Am I correct in thinking of it this way:
M of Acid x 025 = 0.01505 M of base x 0.01505 vol. of base added
Any insight you can give would be greatly appreciated - I feel like I am pulling my hair out trying to figure this out.
Titrating an acid/base - 1 M. solution of NaOH into HCL. I have to Calculate the molarity of the HCl from the volumes of acid and base at the equivalence point and the molarity of the NaOH.
This is what I have:
Volume of Acid (HCL) at equivalence point: 25ml
Volume of Base (NaOH) at equivalence point: 15.05ml
Am I correct in thinking of it this way:
M of Acid x 025 = 0.01505 M of base x 0.01505 vol. of base added
Any insight you can give would be greatly appreciated - I feel like I am pulling my hair out trying to figure this out.
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Titrating an acid/base - 1 M. solution of NaOH into HCL. I have to Calculate the molarity of the HCl from the volumes of acid and base at the equivalence point and the molarity of the NaOH.
This is what I have:
Volume of Acid (HCL) at equivalence point: 25ml
Volume of Base (NaOH) at equivalence point: 15.05ml
Am I correct in thinking of it this way:
M of Acid x 025 = 0.01505 M of base x 0.01505 vol. of base added
Any insight you can give would be greatly appreciated - I feel like I am pulling my hair out trying to figure this out.
This is what I have:
Volume of Acid (HCL) at equivalence point: 25ml
Volume of Base (NaOH) at equivalence point: 15.05ml
Am I correct in thinking of it this way:
M of Acid x 025 = 0.01505 M of base x 0.01505 vol. of base added
Any insight you can give would be greatly appreciated - I feel like I am pulling my hair out trying to figure this out.
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Julie, do you still need help?